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Applications crash checking for DX plugins (Solved)

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dawful:
I'm have an issue where any/all DX plugin capable applications crash when starting up. Those that display their initiation status, at the time of the crash, show that they are scanning for available DX plugins. If there are no DX plugins available (removed), the applications will load successfully.

This is on Windows 98. I've tested with DirectX 7 through 9. I've duplicated this issue on another machine. It isn't one, or a few,  plugin(s) that are causing this issue. It is any DX plugin. Programs bundled with their own in-house DX plugins crash.

The issue seems causes by the audio device driver being used. One machine, while using a VxD driver, functions without this issue. The other machine does not have VxD drivers for it's audio device. So it started looking like the issue was with the use of WDM audio drivers; however I can use a WDM USB audio device, along side the VxD device, and not get the issue.

I have two different WDM drivers, for the machine that "does" have a VxD driver. One is generic (DirectSound emulation) and the other is vendor (Direct Sound fully supported). Both WDM drivers have the issue.

I would gladly use the VxD drivers; but ASIO, WDM/ks, and DX-ASIO do not work with VxD drivers. At best I can use Steinberg MME-ASIO or Cakewalk Wavpipe. Both have higher latency, and are not compatible with all applications.

Hoping someone has seen this issue before. I don't know if there is a fix. Any one have any ideas?

OGF:
Strange problem...

Are you using Win98 SE?
What's your mainboard/chipset and which exact driver version for it have you installed?
What's your sounddevice that you are talking about and which exact driver are you using for it?
Have you tried on a fresh win install on the same machine with only dx, chipset drivers, gpu drivers installed?
What's your GPU and which driver are you using?
Does dxdiag.exe give you any errors?

dawful:

--- Quote ---Are you using Win98 SE?
--- End quote ---
No, it is Win98FE. Not enough WDM support?


--- Quote ---What's your mainboard/chipset and which exact driver version for it have you installed? What's your sounddevice that you are talking about and which exact driver are you using for it?
--- End quote ---
Realtek A3.64 through A4.06 for WDM (DirectSound Emulated). The VxD is also Realtek 4.05 (DirectSound Emulated). Sigmatel C-major 5.10.4643.0 WDM (DirectSound Accelerated). This is a Laptop mainboard, with Intel915 chipset.


--- Quote ---Have you tried on a fresh win install on the same machine with only dx, chipset drivers, gpu drivers installed?
--- End quote ---
Yes. I've just been living with it, knowing that I can build a machine without the problem.


--- Quote ---What's your GPU and which driver are you using?
Does dxdiag.exe give you any errors?
--- End quote ---
DxDiag crashes on DirectShow. On a second run, I am given the option to skip DirectShow. All audio tests/status is fine. The video driver is Vbemp9x. However, this issue remains while using the default VGA driver.

dawful:
@OGF  Even though it looks grim, thanks for the reply.

OGF:
Please download and use SE, FE is a unstable piece of shit in every way and for many drivers SE is requiered to run correctly.
https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-98/98-second-edition

Which laptop model and when came it out? Could be bad compatibility with win98 because its too new.

And if unterstood correctly, you are using a onboard soundchip? It could be the problem that your soundcard is not fully direct x compatible or something like that. Im impressed that it supports ASIO at all.

If everything fails, i would try a external solution. (USB/FireWire audio interface)

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