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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by smilesdavis on August 16, 2022, 05:40:08 PM »just go with certified for... desktops
love my win 3.1 and win 95
love my win 3.1 and win 95
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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by G40 on August 16, 2022, 04:11:56 PM »Ours were 8303 Thinkcentre M42 (i845G chipset) that were certified for a bunch of Operating Systems (much like the Thinkpad R42 laptops):
https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?htmlfid=872/ENUSAG02-0406&infotype=AN&subtype=CA&appname=skmwwwQuoteSOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS:
Operating System Software: NetVista M42 systems are tested for
compatibility with the following operating systems.
Windows XP Professional
Windows XP Home Edition
Windows 2000
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 98 Second Edition
OS/2 Warp 4.0 and higher (select models)
The drivers section at IBM/Lenovo support website was an inextricable mess with unfriendly filenames, but you could try with drivers for these M42, depending on the PCI device ID.
Thanks. This machine has an SIS 661 chipset, I may do a bit more digging for drivers but for now it seems to be working well enough for my purposes.
My G40 laptop is also P4/XP era but (if memory serves) that was a breeze to install 98SE on, and it runs very well indeed (dual boot XP/98SE). I can't remember the details but google tells me it has an Intel 82852GM chipset, and it seems lenovo/IBM provided 98SE drivers... Just a shame that a laptop keyboard is less than optimal for Cubase, and that I can't put any PCI cards in it...
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Modern Software / SunVox 1.3 Win32 - Old Commercial Version for Use or Spectacle>>>
« Last post by Project5er on August 16, 2022, 03:15:29 PM »From 2008-9 Until version 1.4 or 1.5 SunVox was a commercial product...
Product Page -
https://web.archive.org/web/20080706153151/http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/index.php
ORDER page-
https://web.archive.org/web/20080706233300/http://www.shareit.com/product.html?productid=300253235
Certainly cheap enough & if you like the digital sound of it you are good to go...I never liked the pattern editor or how WAVs & XIs sound coming in...So if you like real kinda instrument sounds probably not a good choice...
Anyways this attached version was retail at the time...for collector or use or spectacle.....
Product Page -
https://web.archive.org/web/20080706153151/http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/index.php
ORDER page-
https://web.archive.org/web/20080706233300/http://www.shareit.com/product.html?productid=300253235
Certainly cheap enough & if you like the digital sound of it you are good to go...I never liked the pattern editor or how WAVs & XIs sound coming in...So if you like real kinda instrument sounds probably not a good choice...
Anyways this attached version was retail at the time...for collector or use or spectacle.....
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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by smilesdavis on August 15, 2022, 11:26:06 PM »win 3.1 on a certified machine
win 95 on a certified machine
you can always upgrade mmx233 from there
win 95 on a certified machine
you can always upgrade mmx233 from there
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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by foksadure on August 15, 2022, 08:28:02 AM »Ours were 8303 Thinkcentre M42 (i845G chipset) that were certified for a bunch of Operating Systems (much like the Thinkpad R42 laptops):
https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?htmlfid=872/ENUSAG02-0406&infotype=AN&subtype=CA&appname=skmwww
The drivers section at IBM/Lenovo support website was an inextricable mess with unfriendly filenames, but you could try with drivers for these M42, depending on the PCI device ID.
https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?htmlfid=872/ENUSAG02-0406&infotype=AN&subtype=CA&appname=skmwww
Quote
SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS:
Operating System Software: NetVista M42 systems are tested for
compatibility with the following operating systems.
Windows XP Professional
Windows XP Home Edition
Windows 2000
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 98 Second Edition
OS/2 Warp 4.0 and higher (select models)
The drivers section at IBM/Lenovo support website was an inextricable mess with unfriendly filenames, but you could try with drivers for these M42, depending on the PCI device ID.
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Cubase (1990s) / Re: Steinberg Cubase 2.8 (1996) the last "midi-only" version of cubase
« Last post by smilesdavis on August 15, 2022, 02:45:25 AM »so basically PC parallel port dongles are HASP
Mac U.R.Disks are PACE
the cracker needs physical access to the pace floppies because the read errors are intentional
can we collect all cubase mac and pro tools mac and digidesign and digidesign development partner auth u.r. floppy images read with greazeweasle here in a single tjread once and for all so potential hackers can take a stab at them?
i will provide quite a few this week but it would be cool if someone with better timeline and pace auth floppy overview do an outline for us to fill
Mac U.R.Disks are PACE
the cracker needs physical access to the pace floppies because the read errors are intentional
can we collect all cubase mac and pro tools mac and digidesign and digidesign development partner auth u.r. floppy images read with greazeweasle here in a single tjread once and for all so potential hackers can take a stab at them?
i will provide quite a few this week but it would be cool if someone with better timeline and pace auth floppy overview do an outline for us to fill
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Cubase (1990s) / Re: Steinberg Cubase 2.8 (1996) the last "midi-only" version of cubase
« Last post by G40 on August 14, 2022, 02:46:39 PM »PC
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Cubase (1990s) / Re: Steinberg Cubase 2.8 (1996) the last "midi-only" version of cubase
« Last post by smilesdavis on August 14, 2022, 01:57:53 PM »is 3 xt shared? for mac?
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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by G40 on August 14, 2022, 12:03:24 PM »Actually this one (it's a thinkcenter E50 8772 - 78G) was a pig to install 98 on - would only boot into safe mode until I followed advice here https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=41065 - specifically "Disable all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers".
I then managed to find the correct IDE driver and it now seems to be working OK, although there are a bunch of unknown devices in Device Manager. I didn't manage to find a full set of drivers for the machine anywhere, for any OS.
(edit: I take it back, XP drivers but not windows 98, are available here: https://download.lenovo.com/eol/index.html)
Only irritation it that although it now has USB disk support (I installed nusb36.exe) external drives oddly show up twice, with two drive letters assigned.
Oh, and sometimes it seems to momentarily hang before disk operations. Still, generally speaking it's a speedy and practical machine.
I then managed to find the correct IDE driver and it now seems to be working OK, although there are a bunch of unknown devices in Device Manager. I didn't manage to find a full set of drivers for the machine anywhere, for any OS.
(edit: I take it back, XP drivers but not windows 98, are available here: https://download.lenovo.com/eol/index.html)
Only irritation it that although it now has USB disk support (I installed nusb36.exe) external drives oddly show up twice, with two drive letters assigned.
Oh, and sometimes it seems to momentarily hang before disk operations. Still, generally speaking it's a speedy and practical machine.
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Retrospects - Looking Back in Time / Re: New/old audio PC - Which OS?
« Last post by foksadure on August 13, 2022, 03:47:37 PM »Nice setup! 
Those early 2K's IBM Thinksomething were overengineered, built like tanks and a pleasure to maintain.
I should have saved one from work when I had a chance, since they had 98 and XP drivers.
Those early 2K's IBM Thinksomething were overengineered, built like tanks and a pleasure to maintain.
I should have saved one from work when I had a chance, since they had 98 and XP drivers.