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General / Miscellaneous / Re: thanks to all for the private messages
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 19, 2025, 03:55:08 PM »
i was using SSH in Slackware 3.0 in 95/96. when i was 18.
 ;D

it took me two weeks to get it to install properly.
but yes... teach me about these things that i knew probably before you were born lol
;0
jokes

im not hosting my own website, that responsibility belongs to a large company. i think they should know what they are doing by now.
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General / Miscellaneous / Re: Vintage Mac and PC MIDI Sequencer Lab at Vintage Computer Fest SoCal 2025
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 19, 2025, 03:44:32 PM »
cool stuff  8)
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General / Miscellaneous / Re: for 4K 60Hz over HDMI, you'd typically need a card with HDMI 2.0 support
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 19, 2025, 01:41:11 PM »
Dec 2002 (1.0)
May 2004 (1.1)
Aug 2005 (1.2)
Dec 2005 (1.2a)
Jun 2006 (1.3)
Nov 2006 (1.3a)
Jun 2009 (1.4)
Mar 2010 (1.4a)
Oct 2011 (1.4b)

Sep 2013 (2.0) <-- 4k 60hz support over hdmi
Apr 2015 (2.0a)
Mar 2016 (2.0b)

Nov 2017 (2.1) <-- 4K 120Hz support over hdmi
Feb 2022 (2.1a)
Aug 2023 (2.1b)
Jun 2025 (2.2)

also see my post here on the history of gpus
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php/topic,3840
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General / Miscellaneous / for 4K 60Hz over HDMI, you need a card with HDMI 2.0 support (late 2014+)
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 19, 2025, 01:00:46 PM »
the evolution of H.D.M.I.
refresh rate of a graphics card determines the "frames per second" speed of your graphics response..

to achieve 4K resolution at 60Hz refresh rate over HDMI, a graphics card with HDMI 2.0 or later support is generally required. HDMI 2.0 offers the necessary bandwidth to support this combination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison

HDMI 1.4a: (March 4, 2010), only supports 4K at 24Hz (4096x2160) or 30Hz (3840x2160). this means all graphic cards made in between 2010 + 2014 will not support 4k @ 60hz

The GeForce GTX 660, 660 Ti, and other GTX 600 series cards can support 4K resolution (4096x2160) at 60Hz via the DisplayPort connection only


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HDMI 2.0 (September 2013). It introduced key features such as support for 4K resolution at 60Hz and increased bandwidth to 18 Gbps, enabling smoother video and gaming experiences.

Key features of HDMI 2.0 include:
-Increased bandwidth: From 10.2 Gbps to 18 Gbps, allowing for higher resolution and frame rates.
-4K at 60Hz support: Enabled 4K resolution at 60 frames per second, improving visual quality.
-32 audio channels: Increased the number of supported audio channels.
-Dual video streams: Allowed for two separate video streams to be displayed on one screen.
-21:9 aspect ratio support: Provided wider aspect ratio for a more cinematic viewing experience.
-Backward compatibility: Designed to be compatible with earlier HDMI versions.
-Support for HDR (HDMI 2.0a): Introduced in April 2015, added support for High Dynamic Range (HDR) metadata, enhancing color and contrast.

The first graphics cards to support HDMI 2.0 were released in late 2014, following the release of the HDMI 2.0 specification in September 2013. Nvidia's GeForce GTX 970 and 980, based on the Maxwell architecture, were among the first to include HDMI 2.0 support. These cards, along with the GTX 960, 980 Ti, and Titan X, were released in late 2014 and early 2015.

HDMI 2.0a: (April 2015)
HDMI 2.0a, released in April 2015, is an update to the HDMI 2.0 specification that primarily focuses on adding support for High Dynamic Range (HDR) content. This enables TVs to display a wider range of colors and contrast, making images appear more realistic with brighter whites and deeper blacks.

the AMD Radeon RX 480 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-480.c2848 was one of the first graphics cards to feature HDMI 2.0b (Mar 2016 ) It was released in 2016 and was part of a new generation of GPUs that also included DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 and support for HDR content.


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HDMI 2.1: (Nov 2017)
While HDMI 2.0 is sufficient for 4K 60Hz, HDMI 2.1 is needed for higher refresh rates like 4K 120Hz or 8K resolution.
This newer standard offers significantly higher bandwidth, enabling 4K 120Hz or even 8K resolutions.

The Nvidia GeForce RTX 30 series https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/ was the first nvidia gpu to feature HDMI 2.1. Specifically, the RTX 3070, RTX 3080, and RTX 3090 were among the first graphics cards to implement the HDMI 2.1 standard, enabling higher resolutions, refresh rates, and bandwidth for gaming and other applications, according to Cable Matters and HDMI Licensing Administrator, Inc.. This allowed for features like 4K at 120Hz and 8K at 60Hz, as well as variable refresh rates.

The first Radeon GPUs to support HDMI 2.1 were the Radeon RX 6000 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_6000_series, released in November 2020. Specifically, the RX 6800 and RX 6900 XT were among the first to feature this capability. This series utilizes AMD's RDNA 2 architecture, which is also found in the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X/S consoles, all of which support HDMI 2.1.

thats why it makes sense that The first popular consumer GPUs to support PCIe 4.0 were also the Nvidia GeForce RTX 30 series and the AMD Radeon RX 6000 series
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General / Miscellaneous / MOVED: last audio app versions that support high sierra 10.13.6
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 16, 2025, 06:21:13 PM »
This topic has been moved to 10.13 High Sierra (Sep 2017).

http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=8677.0
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Software Samplers / Re: E-MU Emulator X3 (2008) Requirements (windows XP/Vista)
« Last post by smoot smooth.as.silk on July 11, 2025, 02:45:15 AM »
E-mu revolutionized music sampling with their legendary Emulator series. I wanted to share this with you. But chrisNova777 has already posted a lot of stuff here.

"E-Mu Proteus VX v.2 that E-mu was giving away for free at the end. Includes manual. Can play any and all E-Mu sample sets of module ROM. Runs in Windows XP to 10 x64. Software version of Proteus 2000. Includes Composer ROM sample set. Stand-alone or plugin. Abandonware."

https://archive.org/details/proteus-vx_202103
https://synth.market/en/articles/e_mu_last_decade_of_samplers/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_Emulator_X

I found and installed an E-mu Emulator X3 64-bit. I have to say that some of E-mu's sound libraries are quite special. :D And personally, they're very useful for many productions. I also like the workflow. Old-school sampler style. I didn't know this model, the VST, existed. But thanks to this website, there are many interesting articles.

E-mu's EOS 4.70 system is very stable. This is the latest version using Emulator X3 64-bit.

It also works in Cubase Pro 14 and Windows 10 as a VST. A standalone version works fine too. It's interesting that this website has a lot of legacy information. E-mu created many great modules. They eventually stopped making hardware. But that's obviously the trend since the introduction of the VST.
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10.13 High Sierra (Sep 2017) / last audio app versions that support high sierra 10.13.6
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 10, 2025, 02:30:59 PM »
Logic Pro X 10.4.8 (dec 2019)
https://gearspace.com/board/apple-logic-pro/1290949-10-4-8-out.html
https://archive.org/details/logic-pro-x-10.4.8-macinstalledon-mac-book-air-12-high-sierra

Ableton Live 11
you can also run ableton live 9 or 10 on high sierra
https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-11/ (12 requires macOS 11 Big Sur or higher)
https://archive.org/details/AbletonLive11LiteInstaller

Cubase 11.0.41 (2021)
you can also run cubase 9 or 10 on high sierra
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-11-0-41-maintenance-update-released/744549
https://o.steinberg.net/en/support/unsupported_software/cubase/cubase_11/cubase_pro_11.html
https://o.steinberg.net/en/support/unsupported_software/cubase/cubase_11.html

pro tools 2020.12
https://kb.avid.com/pkb/articles/Download/Pro-Tools-2020-12-Release-Info
download avid link? https://www.avid.com/products/avid-link#Downloads

Reason 12 (Sept 2021)
Reason 11 is also compatible with macOS High Sierra (10.13).
requires macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) or later.  "While older versions of Reason were not compatible with High Sierra due to the introduction of the APFS file system, Reason 12 and later versions are designed to work with it. "
reason 12 can be downloaded frm this page using torrent client https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002216653-Download-using-BitTorrent

Reason 10.1.1+ Reason 9.5.3++
https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason/updates
https://help.reasonstudios.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002216873-Reason-Studios-products-and-macOS-High-Sierra

Digital Performer 9.52
https://motu.com/en-us/download/product/324/

Digital Performer 10.13 (Oct. 13, 2020)
is mentioned as a specific version compatible with macOS 10.13 https://motu.com/en-us/download/product/352/?platform_family=any&download_type=installer

REAPER v6.83 - October 11, 2023
https://www.reaper.fm/download-old.php?ver=6x

Garageband 6 through 10.3.4
https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1in0GAPPX83-VCLKYO4A1LeENkEnwN2UP&export=download (doesnt work?)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170803194557/http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/43/39/061-5890/y2FxthySsyd2PSt3zfZ4mz3XkbqdGZPDZc/GarageBandExtraContent.tar
GarageBand version 6.0.5 is the last compatible version for macOS High Sierra. If you have previously purchased GarageBand, you can download it from your Purchases tab in the App Store. Otherwise, the latest version (10.4.12 or later) requires macOS 13.5 or later. The newest GarageBand version compatible with macOS High Sierra (10.13) is GarageBand 10.3.5. id say go with this download first: https://archive.org/details/garage-band-10.3.4

&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD


"high sierra" is the budget hackintosh level, it works with most Nvidia GPUs and other left over gear like the core 2 duo cpus + motherboards
perfect for repurposing for audio production hobby use, while you can get by using it to browse the net
its def on its way out in favor of newer options, but it just might give u access to the software you already own?

basically its gear from 2013-2020 mixed with software from the late 2010's + early 2020s to have one of these builds

i would think theres alot of programs and content that is 32bit that may never be ported to 64bit thats why this topic is important. as most of you already probably know high sierra + mojave are the last macosx os that support 32bit applications
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General / Miscellaneous / hdmi 2.0 (2013) first supported after 2015
« Last post by chrisNova777 on July 10, 2025, 12:18:34 PM »
HDMI 2.0 was released on September 4, 2013. It's also known as HDMI UHD by some manufacturers. This version increased the maximum bandwidth to 18.0 Gbit/s, enabling support for 4K video at 60Hz with 24 bit/px color depth, among other features.

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General / Miscellaneous / Re: thanks to all for the private messages
« Last post by smoot smooth.as.silk on July 09, 2025, 04:35:41 AM »
Quote from: chrisNova777 on July 06, 2025, 10:41:16 AM
sorry im not able to respond to them in a timely manner
it would be best to just make your comments publicly on the site here

Here's the first public message.

Since you have a great forum,  ;) I'd like to give you some free advice. I hope this is useful to you.

It's also a good idea to remove this advice from this forum, as others can see it too. There are bad people out there, after all. :( Hopefully, you have at least a backup. I hope this is helpful.

1. Complicated action:   https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=555034.msg3934593#msg3934593

My advice is to secure this website with an SSL certificate. The reason for this is that if someone logs in here as a user, a hacker can intercept it. This is because it's not encrypted. SSL makes it safe, Consequently, it could be misused. You could use https://letsencrypt.org for this. But some caution regarding implementation is advised. You need a good backup, in case something goes wrong. Or, if this website is running on a VPS, you can clone it and test it first.

Indeed, it's all very technical, but that's the way it is.

2. Simple action: Firewall, and very effective

Also, you don't have a firewall running on your forum. Very dangerous. It will save you a lot of headaches and trouble. This isn't too complicated. The database, in particular, is open on port 3306.

For your website, you only need to open ports 80 and 443 SSL. Opening port 22 is very dangerous; this is the basis of the SSH CLI system.

Ask your administrator to arrange this.
It looks like this is your provider's address:

31.142.63.50.host.secureserver.net

Currently "open" isn't a good idea unless it's necessary. 80 and 443 are required for the website. Other options aren't.

Discovered open port 80/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 3306/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 110/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 25/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 995/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 587/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 443/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 143/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 21/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 465/tcp on 50.63.142.31
Discovered open port 993/tcp on 50.63.142.31
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1990s / Re: Power Supplies for Old School Daws
« Last post by smoot smooth.as.silk on July 09, 2025, 03:56:47 AM »
As long as the interface matches the motherboard. Check the PCI specification of your motherboard and the card's supplier. A sound card doesn't use a lot of power. Compare this to a GPU video card, which requires an additional power supply.  :D    Is that what you mean or want to know?
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