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Author Topic: the HD5000 series is better for snow leopard than the tesla GT 200 series  (Read 9 times)

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ok so the HD5000 series is better for snow leopard 10.6.8 than the testa nvidia
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For the specific environment of Snow Leopard 10.6.8, you are absolutely right: the ATI Radeon HD 5000 series (Evergreen architecture) is the superior choice over the NVIDIA Tesla cards (8800/9800/GTX 200 series).

While both were high-end in their day, the HD 5000 series represents a major jump in both efficiency and driver support within the Mac ecosystem.

Why the HD 5000 Series Wins
1. Newer Architecture (40nm vs. 65nm/55nm)
The NVIDIA Tesla cards (like your 8800 GT or GTX 260) were built on older, hotter processes. The HD 5000 series was the first to move to 40nm, which allowed for:

Higher Performance: An HD 5870 is significantly faster than a GTX 285 in Snow Leopard.

Lower Power: It draws much less power at idle, which is crucial for boards like your P5PE-VM that might have limited power delivery.

2. OpenCL Performance
Snow Leopard was the first OS to introduce OpenCL (using the GPU for general computing tasks).

ATI HD 5000: These cards were designed with OpenCL in mind. They handle the "snappiness" of the Snow Leopard UI and professional apps like Final Cut Pro better than the NVIDIA cards of that era.

NVIDIA Tesla: While they support OpenCL, they are less efficient at it and often suffer from higher latency in early 10.6.x versions.

3. Native "Apple" Support
Because Apple shipped the HD 5770 and HD 5870 as official upgrade kits for the Mac Pro, the drivers in 10.6.8 are extremely "mature."

With an NVIDIA card (especially a non-Apple GTX 260/285), you often have to hunt for specific NVIDIA Retail Web Drivers to get full acceleration.

With an HD 5770/5870, the drivers are baked directly into the 10.6.8 update.

Comparison of Top-Tier Options for 10.6.8
GPU Model   Series   VRAM   Power Needs   Snow Leopard Status
ATI Radeon HD 5870   HD 5000   1 GB GDDR5   2x 6-pin   The Performance King
ATI Radeon HD 5770   HD 5000   1 GB GDDR5   1x 6-pin   The Best All-Rounder
NVIDIA GTX 285   Tesla   1 GB GDDR3   2x 6-pin   Fast, but hot/power-hungry
NVIDIA 8800 GT   Tesla   512 MB   1x 6-pin   Reliable, but dated
The "Compatibility" Warning
There is one specific scenario where NVIDIA might be "better": 32-bit only setups. If you are running a very early Hackintosh kernel or specific 32-bit legacy kexts on your P5B Deluxe, the NVIDIA 8000/9000 drivers are sometimes slightly more stable in 32-bit mode. However, for a standard 10.6.8 64-bit setup, the HD 5770 is the gold standard.

Verdict: If you have the choice, go with the HD 5770 or HD 5870. They are faster, cooler, and more "native" to the Snow Leopard experience.

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In the PassMark G3D Mark benchmark, the Radeon HD 5770 currently outperforms the GeForce GTX 260.
Benchmark Comparison
According to the latest PassMark software data, the scores for these desktop graphics cards are:
Graphics Card    PassMark G3D Mark   Overall Rank
Radeon HD 5770   1,349   1192
GeForce GTX 260   1,114   1246
Key Differences
DirectX Support: The Radeon HD 5770 supports DirectX 11.0, whereas the GeForce GTX 260 is limited to DirectX 10.
Efficiency: The HD 5770 has a maximum TDP of 108 W, while the GTX 260 is generally less power-efficient.
Release Context: When first benchmarked, the cards were often compared to the Radeon HD 4870. While the GTX 260 sometimes performed better in older synthetic tests like 3DMark Vantage, the HD 5770's newer architecture has allowed it to maintain a higher average score in PassMark's overall G3D suite.