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32 inputs/32 outputs in M-powered with four(4) m-audio Delta 1010LT on WinXP32

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6track:
Patch integrator 3.4.5 (current, February 2023) - The kit includes the main upgraded drivers that allow you to install XP on unsupported hardware.

More information: https://zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems/123-windows-xp-professional-sp3-x86-integral-edition

joethelion:
Agreed 6tr ... It's far the best I've used.

I'm 'feeling my way' for a retro project after a very long lay-off.

Have you been able to overcome Intel chipset RAM limitation ... and with any specific chipset series ?
Eg: It seems 915 series is max 2Gb regardless of PAE fixes and possible OS/BIOS tweaking ?

Have you had success with, eg: 945-965 series to achieve greater than 8Gb RAM ?

Have you trialled any server boards with XPPSP3 Integral ... overcoming chipset driver issues ?

Thanks for any help.


ATB, jtl

chrisNova777:
ram limitations are specific to mother boards AND operating system

and forgive me guys but the purpose of me making this thread was the opposite
ie: the whole point was to use fully supported hardware.. that was a right match for the os /software not to make unsupported hardware work for something it doesnt..

the original m-audio drivers are solid compared to the newer 64bit version that they basically were forced to give out by pressure of customers complaining.. they literally made no money probably off producing those 64bit drivers but they did it (i think) because there were so many people complaining that they couldnt use their delta 1010 (1010LT) with windows 7 (which probably installed as 64bit by default)

so ya the 64bit drivers are not as robust + complete as the original XP drivers (and also didnt allow you to use 4 cards together as one interface) so unfortunately 4gb is the ram limitation, if joethelion has a 2gb ram max... under XP? then that has to be the motherboard itself (not the chipset??) for example i have a p5pe-vm motherboard it can only take 2gb max... but people forget that 2gb in the early 2000s was still alot of ram.. even 1gb was still alot of ram.. compared to the years just prior.

people made alot of amazing music with computers that had alot less ram than 2gb. maybe keep that in mind|
it sucks that this is a result of the programmer whoever developed the drivers.. and how much they paid or didnt pay him to develop the drivers.

joethelion:
Yes indeed, Chris ...
I wholly agree with both your intent and with your insight ... :)

I'm a 'died in the wool' Intel guy; however, I'm not current with much post-Win 7, having despaired of MS OS evolution strategy.

That is not to suggest I'm not open-minded. I've been researching a great deal and (privately)questioning many of the claims made on chipset/os/RAM issues, sometimes for re-purposing otherwise 'obsolete' hardware.

I can only advocate eg, if Intel designed the 915 chipset for max 2Gb RAM on XP, then that is the safe working practise, until Intel revise. I've never been able to indulge (risk) more adventurous approaches ... :)

I hope you might find time to consider the e-mail I recently sent to you with an outline of my (non-commercial) interest in re-purposing an outdated studio with much good XP/7 hardware ?

There's much to be trialled and proven. I'll be glad to post relevant stuff on OSD if of interest.
It seems to me RAM will, to a large extent, govern possibilities and viable options; especially, in sourcing system boards.

I've no wish to clutter OSD by inconsistent posting; however, I was so impressed by your efforts in this post, in particular, I wondered if we might begin a new continuity topic based on industry stalwarts, RME and Soundscape PCI ... Mixtreme & 968/9636 ?
Strong pressure within that sector ensured a much longer life for what remain excellent PCI cards, even if 32 bit 5v. That such great vfm cards are most reliable and stackable could well open otherwise closed doors to many here and beyond; especially, in such as semi-pro/community live ensemble broadcasting with real players and instruments plus VSTi.

That requires much more RAM, largely governed by chipset on Intel boards.

I well recall times when magnetic flux density was the decisive issue ... :)

As a brief aside, I'm curious as to why there are many visitors to OSD; yet, few seem to sign-in and contribute when visiting. I guess OSD is not intened to be a 'talking shop' ?

If so, I'll keep that in mind ... :)

ATB, jtl.

ioreg:
That delta has very noisy inputs, so what's the point in that old crap? Better buy good mic, preamp and 1 good pro soundcard.

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