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c-lab creator v1.3 (1988) for ATARI ST *cracked*

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chrisNova777:



link to /Creator_v1.3_(1988) (C-Lab)

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does anyone know if this works?

Mixermap:
I've just tested it on my Atari STE and it works fine.
I loaded it up and recorded a couple of tracks with no issues.

To start the "cracked" version load 1_LOADER.PRG

The CREATOR.PRG file itself is not cracked and the program will freeze on the main screen.

However, the uncracked file will actually run with ANY C-Lab dongle, including a Notator one!
I tested it with Creator 2.2, Creator 3 and Notator 3 dongle and they all work.

It's a bit odd because normally Notator and Creator dongles are not interchangeable.

Running the program with a dongle instead of the crack actually gives you an extra bit of free memory (note that my Atari has 4MB so on a 1MB machine the difference would have been sizeable). See Pictures.

On the subject of dongles and versions: a Creator 3 dongle will run ANY previous version of Creator from the very first and a Notator 3 dongle will run ANY Notator version from the earliest one.
This is not true for Steinberg and Cubase: each main Atari version (1, 2 or 3) requires its own dongle although "Score" dongles will run their equivalent "standard" version (my Cubase Score 2.07 dongle runs Cubase "standard" 3.1)

Apologies for the digression :)))
 

chrisNova777:
so is it possible to use this cracked creator version with ANY ATARI ST (even 520ST)
i read that creator doesnt need more than 512k ram
is that true>?

pretty old cracked copy . 1988! thats goin back!
i was 11 at the time :D lol
i always wanted an atari but had to make do
with the choices of my parents;
 286 IBM/AT + tandy 1000 systems

Mixermap:
I've done some further testing...

Unfortunately it won't run with only 512KB of RAM.
I tried it in Steem, setting it as a 520STF and Creator crashes with a "Memory Panic" error.
I don't have a 520ST to try it in "real life".
Since the crack uses quite a bit of memory, it MAY be possible to run on a 520ST in "uncracked" mode (see above post) with a C-Lab dongle of any later version.

Of course, I cannot try that out in Steem 'cause my Asus laptop does not have a cartridge port :D

I found these two reviews of Version 1.2 (which seems to have been the first version commercially released in the UK):

http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/c-lab-creator/2538
Sound On Sound November 1987

http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/c-lab-creator/2148
Music Technology December 1987

:D we could only dream of a 286AT here in UK in 1988!!! I wish I had had one! :)))

PS.: I'd be interested to know if it does work on a real 520ST....

chrisNova777:
my dad worked for radio shack so he got the computers at cost from radio shack.. the tandy computer line..
they had tons of them here where i live as there was a head office for radioshack was here for all of canada i think



i had a few different Tandy 1000 models... first the HX model.. then the SX i think my dad would keep trading them back in and getting a better model etc because he could; eventually we had a tandy 3000 i think it was a 286 tho.. not a 386


i was first hooked on using it with SIERRA adventure games but i was 10 years old.. so thats my excuse :D lol
im actually trying to find a tandy system now for nostalgia purposes...but id be happy to just find any RGB EGA CRT type color disply from 88, 89, 90 time zone.. its a great time for computing memorie for me, i eventually was running a BBS from my bedroom with 2 phone lines active... most of this all done within DOS i think.. not even running on windows 3.1 - software was called "RemoteAccess" / "Spitfire BBS" / eventually one came out called ROBOboard i think that featured VGA graphics instead of EGA ANSI type graphics.. remoteAccess was the overall most popular at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteAccess
but anyway all of this is offtopic ;)

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